From cp@gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu Thu Jan 15 15:37:38 1998 Received: from gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu (gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu [128.146.112.21]) by mail.acm.org (8.8.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id PAA41818 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:35:44 -0500 Received: by gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu (4.1/5.901231) id AA01796; Thu, 15 Jan 98 15:38:38 EST Date: Thu, 15 Jan 98 15:38:38 EST From: Caroline Palmer Message-Id: <9801152038.AA01796@gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu> To: perlman@acm.org Subject: from kathy Status: RO >From kathy@telly.psy.ohio-state.edu Thu Jan 15 11:02:25 1998 Received: from telly.psy.ohio-state.edu by gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu (4.1/5.901231) id AA27624; Thu, 15 Jan 98 11:02:23 EST Received: from telly.psy.ohio-state.edu (ts10-3.homenet.ohio-state.edu [140.254.112.170]) by telly.psy.ohio-state.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA21253; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:03:22 -0500 Message-Id: <34BE315A.C6550D97@telly.psy.ohio-state.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:55:06 -0500 From: Kathy McMahon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Caroline Palmer , Shane Ruland Subject: Re: naps References: <9801150334.AA27415@gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Caroline, I put George down a little earlier for his morning nap, and that meant he was asleep by the usual time, so we are still on schedule. That also meant Megan stayed on her schedule and everyone stays happy (myself included). I have made a decision that it is not going to be possible for me to keep George next Fall. With three kids, and my being a full time student with homewore, what we will be able to do each day will be severely limited. And as I mentioned, we are planning as of now to have Shane come home to watch them while I am in class. He can't watch George, and we don't want to hire someone else, or take them to daycare, if we don't have to. That being said, July 15th is the absolute end of George's daycare here. But I also would like to "encourage you" (that sounds dumb, I know) to actively seek other alternatives before that time. My reasoning is primarily medical. Last night, I had some problems that made me think, "Maybe I should go see the doctor tomorrow." (Problems are gone, fortunately) I can't do that with him here. Lani is out of town, and increasingly less available, anyway. In this case, Shane has lots of sick time to take care of Megan at the drop of a hat. But I can't expect you to pick up George every time I have to do something, which i think is going to be more and more frequent. In the last two months of the pregnancy, for example, my appointments will be twice weekly. But this may be only the tip of the iceberg. Bedrest is not unheard of, and should that be my case, Megan has alternatives with relatives and so forth, but in a matter of 24 hours, you may find I am no longer available for George. I don't want this to happen to you or him. While we didn't plan for this last summer, and I certainly don't want you to be in a position of hurriedly having to find some unacceptable alternative should something happen to me, I think you may also find yourself more relaxed with a dependable person or center that doesn't have other huge responsibilities. I don't want myself, either, to end up neglecting Megan or this baby because of obligations to George (i.e. not being able to go to the doctor, etc.) I am also increasingly less certain of my sisters' stand on this. She is very unsure of her plans, so I am going to assume she is not a responsible alternative. And of course, there is a possibility we will relocate. I am not as concerned about that, though, because it will take time. I realize this is probably a frustrating situation and that you would prefer everything went along as it has so far. As Lani told me, we should all be happy that we had the arrangement at all, and for as long as we did. I will be as flexible as possible in this change, and will try to help you as much as I can. (In the future, too, should you need emergency help, or occasional weekend or overnite help, if was haven't moved, don't hesitate to ask. At least you still have that luxury. ) See you tonight. Kathy From cp@gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu Tue Feb 3 08:51:07 1998 Received: from gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu (gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu [128.146.112.21]) by mail.acm.org (8.8.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id IAA51916 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 08:51:05 -0500 Received: by gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu (4.1/5.901231) id AA04989; Tue, 3 Feb 98 08:55:34 EST Date: Tue, 3 Feb 98 08:55:34 EST From: Caroline Palmer Message-Id: <9802031355.AA04989@gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu> To: lruland@freenet.columbus.oh.us, perlman@acm.org Subject: taxes Status: RO Hi Lani, I'll pass on your message re: taxes to my husband Gary. We spoke with Kathy about taxes when we first started the arrangement. Regards, Caroline cc: Gary >From lruland@freenet.columbus.oh.us Mon Feb 2 21:32:06 1998 Received: from mail.freenet.columbus.oh.us by gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu (4.1/5.901231) id AA04888; Mon, 2 Feb 98 21:32:05 EST Received: from acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us (login [164.107.107.11]) by mail.freenet.columbus.oh.us (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA18792 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lruland@localhost) by acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us (8.8.5/8.8.4) id VAA15772; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:28:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:22:03 -0500 (EST) From: Leilani Ruland Subject: Re: pictures To: Caroline Palmer In-Reply-To: <9802022135.AA04837@gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Hi Caroline, yes, I got to see the pictures and take plenty for myself. I liked the black and white blurry one of the two the best and all the other ones where they are playing. George freezes up when he sees the camera and he always looks so serious but I thought they were wonderful pictures. I am helping the kids with their taxes and the lady that does my taxes needs some more information. Are you claiming the taxes on George on you income tax? If so, my tax lady says she needs to know what was paid in on Social Security on Kathy? Do you know this or does your husband do them? It is all confusing for me. I asked my sister and she said, the people she sits for have a food allowance that is deducted first since she furnishes all the food? Did you do this on Kathy? I didn't want to ask her all this stuff because I don't understand enough about this child care. My tax lady says there is a standard dedution and if you have more than one child in day care it usually goes way over the standard decution. Anyway, please don't say anything to the kids. I'm trying to get this done without bothering them. My tax lady owes me a couple of favors and is willing to do this for me. I'm glad George had a good day. He is a charming fellow, isn't he? I don't think he'll have any trouble unless he gets sick a lot. He's at a good age to make changes. sincerely, lani From perlman Tue Feb 3 09:17:24 1998 Received: by turing.acm.org; id AA03646; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 09:17:23 -0500 From: Gary PERLMAN Message-Id: <9802031417.AA03646@turing.acm.org> Subject: taxes (fwd) To: lruland@freenet.columbus.oh.us Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 09:17:23 -0500 (EST) Cc: perlman, palmer.1@osu.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2140 Status: O We are not claiming George's daycare on our taxes. Mark's daycare takes up all the our deduction. George's first day at OSU went well, but he was a littl clingy during the hour I stayed at drop-off. Today he went about his business without any fuss at all. Gary Forwarded message: > From cp@gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu Tue Feb 3 08:51:07 1998 > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 98 08:55:34 EST > From: Caroline Palmer > Message-Id: <9802031355.AA04989@gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu> > To: lruland@freenet.columbus.oh.us, perlman@acm.org > Subject: taxes > > Hi Lani, > I'll pass on your message re: taxes to my husband > Gary. We spoke with Kathy about taxes when we first > started the arrangement. > Regards, > Caroline > > cc: Gary > > >From lruland@freenet.columbus.oh.us Mon Feb 2 21:32:06 1998 > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:22:03 -0500 (EST) > From: Leilani Ruland > Subject: Re: pictures > To: Caroline Palmer > In-Reply-To: <9802022135.AA04837@gershwin.psy.ohio-state.edu> > Message-Id: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Status: RO > I am helping the kids with their taxes and the lady that does my > taxes needs some more information. Are you claiming the taxes on George > on you income tax? If so, my tax lady says she needs to know what was > paid in on Social Security on Kathy? Do you know this or does your > husband do them? It is all confusing for me. I asked my sister and she > said, the people she sits for have a food allowance that is deducted first > since she furnishes all the food? Did you do this on Kathy? I didn't > want to ask her all this stuff because I don't understand enough about > this child care. My tax lady says there is a standard dedution and if you > have more than one child in day care it usually goes way over the standard > decution. Anyway, please don't say anything to the kids. I'm trying to > get this done without bothering them. My tax lady owes me a couple of > favors and is willing to do this for me. From lruland@freenet.columbus.oh.us Tue Feb 3 19:19:34 1998 Received: from acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us (login [164.107.107.11]) by mail.freenet.columbus.oh.us (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA18950 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 19:20:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lruland@localhost) by acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us (8.8.5/8.8.4) id TAA09131; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 19:20:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 19:14:46 -0500 (EST) From: Leilani Ruland Subject: Re: taxes (fwd) To: Gary PERLMAN In-Reply-To: <9802031417.AA03646@turing.acm.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Hi Gary, Sorry about the misunderstanding. I am trying to help the kids with their taxes because I have a tax lady (after many frustrating years of Fred doing it, he finally gave in) She couldn't give me advice until I knew how you were claiming. Anyway, thank you for responding. I am trying to do so many things and I know that you folks were also stressed with all the sudden changes. I still think it was best for George since Kathy is pregnant. I told Caroline there might be times when Kathy couldn't care for George properly and I couldn't help Caroline out. George is a great little fellow and I enjoyed him. He was so funny. He had his own special way of getting attention. I think he will do okay. The babies that have the most trouble adjusting are the ones who only go to sitters once or twice a week. Thank you for responding. I hope Caroline will keep in touch. I think I still have a couple of pictures of George in my camera. sincerely lani